Re: Fringes from Australia-Japan VLBI test
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From: <s.tingay_at_email.protected>
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 06:02:16 +0800
Sure. ASKAP will help a bit at L-band at least. And perhaps AuScope
will help at S/X for bright sources.
New Norcia looks tough, based on some discussions I had with the
station managers in Perth and Carnarvon still remains a long-shot I
think. Any update on that from the U.Tas. angle Simon?
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:59 AM, Chris Phillips <Chris.Phillips_at_csiro.<!--nospam-->au> wrote:
>Hi Steve,
>
>VDIF is coming and will solve the conversion issue. Mark5b already means it
>is not too bad.
>
>Remember with all this we still have the missing "intermediate" baseline
>problems - it is a big jump from Australian to international baselines.
>
>Cheers
>Chris
>
>------------------------------------------------------------
>Chris Phillips
>CSIRO ATNF eVLBI project scientist
>Office: (+61) (0)2 93724608 Mobile: (+61) (0)439487601
>
>
>
>On 15/10/2009, at 2:04 AM, Steven Tingay wrote:
>
>>Hi Simon,
>>
>>Well done!
>>
>>The very first real disk-based + software correlated observation we
>>did in 2004(?) used Japan, South Africa, VLBA and the LBA and used K5,
>>Mark5 and LBADR recordings. Not sure we have done much since with
>>Japan, but certainly not with any of the VERA antennas.
>>
>>Of course, the pain in regular use is the format conversion currently
>>required. If this could be streamlined or eliminated, it would be a
>>very useful additional capability.
>>
>>Cheers, Steven
>>
>>On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Simon Ellingsen
>><Simon.Ellingsen_at_utas.<!--nospam-->edu.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>Dear LBAers
>>> In late May Hobart participated in a 2 hour test
>>>observation
>>>at the end of a JVN methanol maser VLBI observing session. We observed a
>>>number of continuum calibrators and equitorial methanol maser sources
>>>with a
>>>4 MHz bandwidth and centre frequency of 6.668 MHz. Hobart observed dual
>>>polarization, while the Mizusawa VERA antenna and the Yamaguchi 32m
>>>recorded
>>>LCP only. Mareki Honma arranged for conversion of the recorded
>>>disk-based
>>>data from one of the K5 formats into Mark5B, while at Hobart we recorded
>>>using the standard cdisko recorder, but with data saved in Mark5B format
>>>rather than the standard LBA format.
>>>
>>> After lots of help from Chris Phillips to get the DiFX
>>>input
>>>file correct, I have finally been able to get the first hour for the
>>>Hobart-Mizusawa baseline correlated using version 1.5 of DiFX. Over that
>>>period we observed two calibrators and two maser sources and we have
>>>fringes
>>>from J0609-1542 and the two methanol masers G188.95+0.89 and G213.70-12.6
>>>(Mon R2), which are shown in the attached postscript file.
>>>
>>> I think that we have previously had Australia-Japan fringes
>>>in recent eVLBI experiments and 20 years or so ago in some Mark II
>>>experiments (perhaps also some VSOP experiments). However, I think that
>>>this is the first time we have had fringes to any of the VERA stations
>>>from
>>>Australia?
>>>
>>> I think it would be good to arrange a full-scale
>>>Australia-Japan observation in the not to distant future, as I'm sure
>>>that
>>>there are a range of experiments both maser/line and continuum which
>>>could
>>>benefit from long N-S baselines?
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Simon
>>>--
>>>Simon Ellingsen : Senior Lecturer Physics & Astronomy, University of
>>>Tasmania
>>>Currently : Humboldt Experienced Research Fellow, MPIfR, Bonn
>>>email : Simon.Ellingsen_at_utas.<!--nospam-->edu.au
>>>WWW :
>>>http://fcms.its.utas.edu.au/scieng/physics/pagedetails.asp?lpersonId=681
>>>Phone : +49 (0)228 525 392 (work) +49 (0)1522 374 5728 (mobile)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
>>Professor Steven Tingay
>>
>>Premier's Fellow
>>
>>Deputy Director
>>ICRAR
>>
>>Deputy Director
>>Western Australian Radio Astronomy Centre of Excellence
>>
>>Director, Science and Operations
>>Curtin Institute of Radio Astronomy
>>
>>Department of Imaging and Applied Physics
>>Curtin University of Technology
>>Bentley, Western Australia
>>Australia
>>
>>Street address:
>>Brodie Hall building
>>1 Turner Ave
>>Technology Park
>>Bentley 6102
>>Western Australia
>>
>>Email: s.tingay_at_ivec.<!--nospam-->org OR s.tingay_at_curtin.<!--nospam-->edu.au
>>
>>WWW: http://astronomy.curtin.edu.au
>>
>>Phone: +61 (0)8 9266 3516
>>
>>Mobile: +61 (0)425 771 856
>
>
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 06:02:16 +0800
Sure. ASKAP will help a bit at L-band at least. And perhaps AuScope
will help at S/X for bright sources.
New Norcia looks tough, based on some discussions I had with the
station managers in Perth and Carnarvon still remains a long-shot I
think. Any update on that from the U.Tas. angle Simon?
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 5:59 AM, Chris Phillips <Chris.Phillips_at_csiro.<!--nospam-->au> wrote:
>Hi Steve,
>
>VDIF is coming and will solve the conversion issue. Mark5b already means it
>is not too bad.
>
>Remember with all this we still have the missing "intermediate" baseline
>problems - it is a big jump from Australian to international baselines.
>
>Cheers
>Chris
>
>------------------------------------------------------------
>Chris Phillips
>CSIRO ATNF eVLBI project scientist
>Office: (+61) (0)2 93724608 Mobile: (+61) (0)439487601
>
>
>
>On 15/10/2009, at 2:04 AM, Steven Tingay wrote:
>
>>Hi Simon,
>>
>>Well done!
>>
>>The very first real disk-based + software correlated observation we
>>did in 2004(?) used Japan, South Africa, VLBA and the LBA and used K5,
>>Mark5 and LBADR recordings. Not sure we have done much since with
>>Japan, but certainly not with any of the VERA antennas.
>>
>>Of course, the pain in regular use is the format conversion currently
>>required. If this could be streamlined or eliminated, it would be a
>>very useful additional capability.
>>
>>Cheers, Steven
>>
>>On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Simon Ellingsen
>><Simon.Ellingsen_at_utas.<!--nospam-->edu.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>Dear LBAers
>>> In late May Hobart participated in a 2 hour test
>>>observation
>>>at the end of a JVN methanol maser VLBI observing session. We observed a
>>>number of continuum calibrators and equitorial methanol maser sources
>>>with a
>>>4 MHz bandwidth and centre frequency of 6.668 MHz. Hobart observed dual
>>>polarization, while the Mizusawa VERA antenna and the Yamaguchi 32m
>>>recorded
>>>LCP only. Mareki Honma arranged for conversion of the recorded
>>>disk-based
>>>data from one of the K5 formats into Mark5B, while at Hobart we recorded
>>>using the standard cdisko recorder, but with data saved in Mark5B format
>>>rather than the standard LBA format.
>>>
>>> After lots of help from Chris Phillips to get the DiFX
>>>input
>>>file correct, I have finally been able to get the first hour for the
>>>Hobart-Mizusawa baseline correlated using version 1.5 of DiFX. Over that
>>>period we observed two calibrators and two maser sources and we have
>>>fringes
>>>from J0609-1542 and the two methanol masers G188.95+0.89 and G213.70-12.6
>>>(Mon R2), which are shown in the attached postscript file.
>>>
>>> I think that we have previously had Australia-Japan fringes
>>>in recent eVLBI experiments and 20 years or so ago in some Mark II
>>>experiments (perhaps also some VSOP experiments). However, I think that
>>>this is the first time we have had fringes to any of the VERA stations
>>>from
>>>Australia?
>>>
>>> I think it would be good to arrange a full-scale
>>>Australia-Japan observation in the not to distant future, as I'm sure
>>>that
>>>there are a range of experiments both maser/line and continuum which
>>>could
>>>benefit from long N-S baselines?
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Simon
>>>--
>>>Simon Ellingsen : Senior Lecturer Physics & Astronomy, University of
>>>Tasmania
>>>Currently : Humboldt Experienced Research Fellow, MPIfR, Bonn
>>>email : Simon.Ellingsen_at_utas.<!--nospam-->edu.au
>>>WWW :
>>>http://fcms.its.utas.edu.au/scieng/physics/pagedetails.asp?lpersonId=681
>>>Phone : +49 (0)228 525 392 (work) +49 (0)1522 374 5728 (mobile)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
>>Professor Steven Tingay
>>
>>Premier's Fellow
>>
>>Deputy Director
>>ICRAR
>>
>>Deputy Director
>>Western Australian Radio Astronomy Centre of Excellence
>>
>>Director, Science and Operations
>>Curtin Institute of Radio Astronomy
>>
>>Department of Imaging and Applied Physics
>>Curtin University of Technology
>>Bentley, Western Australia
>>Australia
>>
>>Street address:
>>Brodie Hall building
>>1 Turner Ave
>>Technology Park
>>Bentley 6102
>>Western Australia
>>
>>Email: s.tingay_at_ivec.<!--nospam-->org OR s.tingay_at_curtin.<!--nospam-->edu.au
>>
>>WWW: http://astronomy.curtin.edu.au
>>
>>Phone: +61 (0)8 9266 3516
>>
>>Mobile: +61 (0)425 771 856
>
>
-- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Professor Steven Tingay Premier's Fellow Deputy Director ICRAR Deputy Director Western Australian Radio Astronomy Centre of Excellence Director, Science and Operations Curtin Institute of Radio Astronomy Department of Imaging and Applied Physics Curtin University of Technology Bentley, Western Australia Australia Street address: Brodie Hall building 1 Turner Ave Technology Park Bentley 6102 Western Australia Email: s.tingay_at_ivec.<!--nospam-->org OR s.tingay_at_curtin.<!--nospam-->edu.au WWW: http://astronomy.curtin.edu.au Phone: +61 (0)8 9266 3516 Mobile: +61 (0)425 771 856Received on 2009-10-15 09:02:43