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From: <Tony.Wong_at_email.protected>
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 12:55:44 +1000
Begin forwarded message:
>From: John Lattanzio <John.Lattanzio_at_sci.<!--nospam-->monash.edu.au>
>Date: 21 March 2006 5:08:38 PM
>To: Christopher Wright <c.wright_at_adfa.<!--nospam-->edu.au>
>Cc: warrick.lawson_at_unsw.<!--nospam-->adfa.edu.au, Robert Smith
><R.SMITH_at_adfa.<!--nospam-->edu.au>, Kate Brooks <Kate.Brooks_at_csiro.<!--nospam-->au>, Brad Carter
><carterb_at_usq.<!--nospam-->edu.au>, melanie_at_hilbert.<!--nospam-->maths.utas.edu.au, "Lomb, Nick"
><NickL_at_PHM.<!--nospam-->GOV.AU>, Sarah Maddison <smaddison_at_swin.<!--nospam-->edu.au>, Stuart
>Ryder <sdr_at_aaoepp.<!--nospam-->aao.gov.au>, Tony Wong <Tony.Wong_at_csiro.<!--nospam-->au>
>Subject: Re: SOC email
>
>On Fri, 17 Mar 2006, Christopher Wright wrote:
>
>Greetings All
>
>>17 March 2006
>>
>>Dear All,
>>
>>Firstly, many thanks for responding positively to our invitation to
>>sit on the Scientific Organising Committee for the 2006 ASA Annual
>>Scientific Meeting. Welcome! You can probably see from the adressee
>>list who your fellow SOC members are, but for completeness we are:
>>Warrick Lawson - UNSW_at_ADFA Chair
>>Chris Wright - UNSW_at_ADFA Assisting Chair
>>Kate Brooks - ATNF
>>Brad Carter - University of Southern Queensland
>>Melanie Johnston-Hollitt - University of Tasmania
>>John Lattanzio - Monash University
>>Nick Lomb - Sydney Observatory
>>Sarah Maddison - Swinburne University
>>Stuart Ryder - AAO
>>Tony Wong - UNSW/ATNF
>>
>>We think this SOC structure represents a pretty good balance between
>>early and mid-career people, and a broad cross section of
>>astronomical interests and techniques.
>
>Check!
>
>
>>Time is marching on, and it is in fact less than 4 months
>>until the meeting. The LOC will be bringing up the web site hopefully
>>next week, and a call for contributions will be made then too. But
>>the SOC can already start thinking about the scientific sessions.
>
>Do we hae an approximate timetable? HOw many sessions are being
>scheduled and hence how many invited speakers we want?
>
>
>>Suggestions we have received thus far are for:
>>
>>1) A dedicated educational session. This has been supported by
>>the ASA's Education and Public Outreach Committee (EPOC), and will be
>>run by Nick Lomb (Chair of the EPOC). What we have to decide upon is
>>a request that speakers in this session be given the flexibility to
>>also present a scientific paper, the argument being that if forced to
>>give only one presentation then an attendee will choose to present
>>their science paper. So we need to decide whether people can give two
>>papers at the ASM, and if so do we cap that at some number (with the
>>proviso that one of the papers be education-related)? Nick has said
>>that there are already 3 people who wish to give two papers. Assuming
>>that a whole session cannot be filled by 15 min talks, Nick has also
>>suggested a panel discussion.
>
>I agree: I think it is a good idea and a worthwile session. Someone
>strict might say its not part of the *scientific* meeting since its an
>educational issue. But I am happy to go along with holding this as
>its important to the society and its members.
>
>And I think anyone presenting here should also be free to present a
>scientific paper as well.
>
>I think PASA will not be very interested in publishing many papers
>from here, as they do not cite :-/
>
>>2) A dedicated Gemini results session. This was suggested by a
>>senior member of the ASA Council. The main reason (I believe) is that
>>the ARC is funding Australia's involvement in Gemini, and we as a
>>community should be pro-active in "advertising" the good science we
>>get from Gemini.
>
>Surely Gemini papers will be seen throughout the meeting anyway.
>Is the idea to draw attention to it? A dedicated issue of PASA might
>be a better way to go - hard copies could be printed for the ASA to
>distriobute tothose who should be reminded of the importance of
>Gemini. Could include lay articles as well, perhaps?
>
>
>>3) A discussion forum on the future of the Publications of
>>the Astronomical Society of Australia (PASA). Again, this was
>>suggested by a senior member of the ASA Council. Apparently the cost
>>to the ASA (paid to CSIRO) is fairly substantial, and the question
>>of cost-benefit is being raised.
>
>Its the society's single largest buidget item and always (?) has been.
>Previous surveys have always wanted our own journal - but the RQF may
>make it even harder to get people to submit to PASA. If papers
>are judge bny the Imapct Factor of the journal then small journals
>will be hurt badly. Of course. PASA has been increasing its IF every
>year so it is doing well. The RQF has come at a very bad time from
>the view of PASA.
>
>One option is a new Asia-Pacific based journal combining many
>countries' society journals into one.
>
>Another option (possibly related) is to go "open access" - where
>there are *no* subscription charges and all papers are available for
>free to everyone. Its a popular model in biology.
>
>These are the things we need to discuss. I think a session on this is
>essential for the society....
>
>
>>4) A session/discussion forum on Women in Astronomy. This
>>was suggested by Sarah Maddison, as a prelude to her and Anne Green
>>going to the 2006 IAU GA in Prague. Anne and Sarah are co-Chairs of
>>the IAU Working Group on women in astronomy. Sarah suggested a
>>lunch-time slot.
>
>Sounds like a good idea to me.
>
>
>JL
>
>>That's it for sessions so far, but as you can see there is
>>already a fair bit to think about.
>>
>>Finally, the SOC also has the opportunity to suggest
>>candidates for the Harley Wood Public Lecture. If you can think of a
>>suitable person, perhaps an overseas visitor at your institution,
>>then please make your suggestion. A potential candidate (Mike Dopita,
>>RSAA ANU, Federation Fellow) has already been put forward by a
>>senior ASA Council member.
>>
>>Anyway, that's it for now.
>>
>>Cheers
>>Chris
>>
>>
>
>--
>Professor John Lattanzio
>Centre for Stellar and Planetary Astrophysics
>School of Mathematical Sciences
>Building 28, Monash University
>Victoria 3800 AUSTRALIA
>
>Ph: +61 (0)3 9905-4428
>Fax: +61 (0)3 9905-4403
>WWW: www.maths.monash.edu.au/~johnl/
>
>+----------------------------------------------------------------------
>--+
>| "Listen! I have to explain how bad your models are...."
>|
>| Ernst Zinner
>|
>+----------------------------------------------------------------------
>--+
>
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Tony Wong, ARC-CSIRO Linkage Postdoctoral Fellow
CSIRO Australia Telescope National Facility +61-2-9372-4399
School of Physics, University of New South Wales +61-2-9385-5470
E-mail: Tony.Wong_at_csiro.<!--nospam-->au
FAX: +61-2-9372-4310
URL: http://www.atnf.csiro.au/people/twong
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Received on 2006-03-28 11:56:15
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 12:55:44 +1000
Begin forwarded message:
>From: John Lattanzio <John.Lattanzio_at_sci.<!--nospam-->monash.edu.au>
>Date: 21 March 2006 5:08:38 PM
>To: Christopher Wright <c.wright_at_adfa.<!--nospam-->edu.au>
>Cc: warrick.lawson_at_unsw.<!--nospam-->adfa.edu.au, Robert Smith
><R.SMITH_at_adfa.<!--nospam-->edu.au>, Kate Brooks <Kate.Brooks_at_csiro.<!--nospam-->au>, Brad Carter
><carterb_at_usq.<!--nospam-->edu.au>, melanie_at_hilbert.<!--nospam-->maths.utas.edu.au, "Lomb, Nick"
><NickL_at_PHM.<!--nospam-->GOV.AU>, Sarah Maddison <smaddison_at_swin.<!--nospam-->edu.au>, Stuart
>Ryder <sdr_at_aaoepp.<!--nospam-->aao.gov.au>, Tony Wong <Tony.Wong_at_csiro.<!--nospam-->au>
>Subject: Re: SOC email
>
>On Fri, 17 Mar 2006, Christopher Wright wrote:
>
>Greetings All
>
>>17 March 2006
>>
>>Dear All,
>>
>>Firstly, many thanks for responding positively to our invitation to
>>sit on the Scientific Organising Committee for the 2006 ASA Annual
>>Scientific Meeting. Welcome! You can probably see from the adressee
>>list who your fellow SOC members are, but for completeness we are:
>>Warrick Lawson - UNSW_at_ADFA Chair
>>Chris Wright - UNSW_at_ADFA Assisting Chair
>>Kate Brooks - ATNF
>>Brad Carter - University of Southern Queensland
>>Melanie Johnston-Hollitt - University of Tasmania
>>John Lattanzio - Monash University
>>Nick Lomb - Sydney Observatory
>>Sarah Maddison - Swinburne University
>>Stuart Ryder - AAO
>>Tony Wong - UNSW/ATNF
>>
>>We think this SOC structure represents a pretty good balance between
>>early and mid-career people, and a broad cross section of
>>astronomical interests and techniques.
>
>Check!
>
>
>>Time is marching on, and it is in fact less than 4 months
>>until the meeting. The LOC will be bringing up the web site hopefully
>>next week, and a call for contributions will be made then too. But
>>the SOC can already start thinking about the scientific sessions.
>
>Do we hae an approximate timetable? HOw many sessions are being
>scheduled and hence how many invited speakers we want?
>
>
>>Suggestions we have received thus far are for:
>>
>>1) A dedicated educational session. This has been supported by
>>the ASA's Education and Public Outreach Committee (EPOC), and will be
>>run by Nick Lomb (Chair of the EPOC). What we have to decide upon is
>>a request that speakers in this session be given the flexibility to
>>also present a scientific paper, the argument being that if forced to
>>give only one presentation then an attendee will choose to present
>>their science paper. So we need to decide whether people can give two
>>papers at the ASM, and if so do we cap that at some number (with the
>>proviso that one of the papers be education-related)? Nick has said
>>that there are already 3 people who wish to give two papers. Assuming
>>that a whole session cannot be filled by 15 min talks, Nick has also
>>suggested a panel discussion.
>
>I agree: I think it is a good idea and a worthwile session. Someone
>strict might say its not part of the *scientific* meeting since its an
>educational issue. But I am happy to go along with holding this as
>its important to the society and its members.
>
>And I think anyone presenting here should also be free to present a
>scientific paper as well.
>
>I think PASA will not be very interested in publishing many papers
>from here, as they do not cite :-/
>
>>2) A dedicated Gemini results session. This was suggested by a
>>senior member of the ASA Council. The main reason (I believe) is that
>>the ARC is funding Australia's involvement in Gemini, and we as a
>>community should be pro-active in "advertising" the good science we
>>get from Gemini.
>
>Surely Gemini papers will be seen throughout the meeting anyway.
>Is the idea to draw attention to it? A dedicated issue of PASA might
>be a better way to go - hard copies could be printed for the ASA to
>distriobute tothose who should be reminded of the importance of
>Gemini. Could include lay articles as well, perhaps?
>
>
>>3) A discussion forum on the future of the Publications of
>>the Astronomical Society of Australia (PASA). Again, this was
>>suggested by a senior member of the ASA Council. Apparently the cost
>>to the ASA (paid to CSIRO) is fairly substantial, and the question
>>of cost-benefit is being raised.
>
>Its the society's single largest buidget item and always (?) has been.
>Previous surveys have always wanted our own journal - but the RQF may
>make it even harder to get people to submit to PASA. If papers
>are judge bny the Imapct Factor of the journal then small journals
>will be hurt badly. Of course. PASA has been increasing its IF every
>year so it is doing well. The RQF has come at a very bad time from
>the view of PASA.
>
>One option is a new Asia-Pacific based journal combining many
>countries' society journals into one.
>
>Another option (possibly related) is to go "open access" - where
>there are *no* subscription charges and all papers are available for
>free to everyone. Its a popular model in biology.
>
>These are the things we need to discuss. I think a session on this is
>essential for the society....
>
>
>>4) A session/discussion forum on Women in Astronomy. This
>>was suggested by Sarah Maddison, as a prelude to her and Anne Green
>>going to the 2006 IAU GA in Prague. Anne and Sarah are co-Chairs of
>>the IAU Working Group on women in astronomy. Sarah suggested a
>>lunch-time slot.
>
>Sounds like a good idea to me.
>
>
>JL
>
>>That's it for sessions so far, but as you can see there is
>>already a fair bit to think about.
>>
>>Finally, the SOC also has the opportunity to suggest
>>candidates for the Harley Wood Public Lecture. If you can think of a
>>suitable person, perhaps an overseas visitor at your institution,
>>then please make your suggestion. A potential candidate (Mike Dopita,
>>RSAA ANU, Federation Fellow) has already been put forward by a
>>senior ASA Council member.
>>
>>Anyway, that's it for now.
>>
>>Cheers
>>Chris
>>
>>
>
>--
>Professor John Lattanzio
>Centre for Stellar and Planetary Astrophysics
>School of Mathematical Sciences
>Building 28, Monash University
>Victoria 3800 AUSTRALIA
>
>Ph: +61 (0)3 9905-4428
>Fax: +61 (0)3 9905-4403
>WWW: www.maths.monash.edu.au/~johnl/
>
>+----------------------------------------------------------------------
>--+
>| "Listen! I have to explain how bad your models are...."
>|
>| Ernst Zinner
>|
>+----------------------------------------------------------------------
>--+
>
==================================================================
Tony Wong, ARC-CSIRO Linkage Postdoctoral Fellow
CSIRO Australia Telescope National Facility +61-2-9372-4399
School of Physics, University of New South Wales +61-2-9385-5470
E-mail: Tony.Wong_at_csiro.<!--nospam-->au
FAX: +61-2-9372-4310
URL: http://www.atnf.csiro.au/people/twong
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Received on 2006-03-28 11:56:15